Verdi-ing on the ridiculous

Verdi took the opportunity for a quick fag break between posts 

You know, sometimes there are moments of such purity that you just want to preserve them for ever.

This is one such

The truly repulsive Verdi was on twatwaffle duty, charged with being a dick to anyone not agreeing with Baldy.

She duly set about chief doubter Phoebe.

I should mention here that Verdi mimics Bennett in ignoring the inbuilt 'quote' function, and instead invades the last speech box with blue type, so in the following example, Phoebe's post is in black, Verdi's contribution is in blue. This will become both relevant and amusing as we go on

@Phoebe wrote:After G.A. was removed from the case the Portuguese police decided to avoid getting further involved with the Smiths over their claim that the man they had seen that night was Gerry. The P.J. cancelled preparations for the Smiths to return in order to make an official identification on Portuguese soil, instead passing the buck to the Irish Gardai.

I wonder at the rationale behind Gonçalo Amaral's thinking on this point, as I've said in the past, I can see nothing to be gained by Martin Smith returning to Portugal just to tell them again that he was 60-80% sure it was Gerry McCann he saw on the night of 3rd May 2007.  A reenactment would have been useless, the location was not the point in question, it was the identity of the stranger fleetingly seen in partial lighting and later in September, said to be recognized only by the way McCann was carrying his child.   Smith's return to Portugal at that stage would have been a total waste of time and money.

No shit, Sherlock 

In fairness to Dr Amaral, he was in ignorance of a lot of what was going on behind the scenes back in the UK.

Passing the buck to the Irish police - what an extraordinary notion.  Do you have any evidence to verify your statement?

Pompous twat. The task of taking a second statement was, in fact, passed to the Gardai, as is normal procedure. The fact that the Gardai took the statement IS the evidence, you clown. 

 IMO, it is obvious that the P.J. were put under political pressure to drop the Smith angle. Why would this be the case if the Smiths were  actually allies of team McCann and their Gov. supporters.

As it's only an opinion your question remains unanswerable.

It's YOUR supposed opinion, you repulsive arsekisser. 

 The British police, having returned to the U.K., were no longer  involved in actively investigating Madeleine's disappearance. 
What other opportunity remained then, for the Smiths to get the description of the man they had seen included in ANY investigation about this child's disappearance. 

The British police were not actively nor inactively investigating Madeleine's disappearance, they have no jurisdiction to investigate Madeleine's disappearance - not then not now.

That isn't strictly true. Under the Offences Against the Person act, if the murder or manslaughter of a British citizen is suspected, or a British citizen is suspected to be the culprit, it can fall to the UK authorities to investigate and prosecute 

 Representatives from Leicestershire Constabulary were seconded to Portugal to support the PJ investigation (it remains a mystery as to exactly why) and also to act as a liaison between Portugal and the UK.  Leicestershire Constabulary continued in this role until the Metropolitan Police, Operation Grange, were assigned to 'review' the case back in May 2011.

The Smiths had every opportunity to convey the description of the man they saw to an official police force.  No excuses there!

The Smiths did precisely that, you boiled clown. How the fuck do you think the police found out - psychic powers? You seem spectacularly ignorant - Mr Smith immediately made contact with the Leicestershire police and this is all documented in the case files. So he in fact did PRECISELY what you have accused him of failing to do, you stupid cow. 

The P.J. no longer sought it, the U.K. police weren't involved and certainly did not issue an invitation to the Smiths to come to the U.K. to help draw up any such e-fit. although they were fully aware of the Smith sighting.

There is no requirement for the Smiths to travel to the UK to participate in drawing up an e-fit or any other mode.  Such things can be done locally, it's not passing the buck, it's routine policing.

Phoebe did not suggest there was, you rancid tart. 

The only avenue available to the Smiths was to cooperate with those who DID ask them to help create an e-fit of the suspect. In the absence of any other option, they understandably took this one chance.

Sorry but that is just hypothetical nonsense.

No it isn't. Nobody else asked them to do so, did they? 

 Just think what would have happened if the Smiths had refused.

What would have happened?  One minute you say Smith had no alternative but to consult the McCanns private detectives and in the next breath you imply some sort of threatening behaviour.  You can't have it both ways.

She did NOT say anything about 'consulting' them, nor did she suggest any type of threat 

 In all likelihood Smithman would have faded into obscurity and we, the public, would never have seen the e-fits of the man they helped to depict - e-fits which bear such a resemblance to Gerry that it caused much sarcastic reaction and comment when Gerry was pictured in a  T.V. studio, seated beneath the image of a suspect which looked uncannily like himself!

Smithman has faded into obscurity - despite ex-DCI Andy Redwood making it the focal point of the Crimewatch 2013 Madeleine McCann Special, in collaboration with the BBC.  Had Martin Smith, or a member of his family, followed the right course by collaborating with an official police force in the first place, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  

Verdi talking complete bollocks. Martin Smith contacted the Leicestershire police after seeing the footage of Gerry getting off the plane and was subsequently spoken to by the PJ. All of this information is in the published files, so Verdi is either a total fucking liar or a halfwit. The smart money is on both.

The Smiths had every opportunity to work with the Irish police and the UK police, in the guise of Leicestershire Constabulary and the Metropolitan Police - he declined to avail himself of the opportunities.  As the old saying goes - actions speak louder than words.

Complete and utter falsehood. Smith contacted the right people and this is nothing less than an utterly contrived attack on the poster, presumably in an effort to win brownie points from Baldylocks.

Anyhoo, Phoebe responded. I should say that Phoebe reverted to using that crafty device - correct punctuation - to make it clear when she was quoting Verdi. However, to keep the format the same as in the above, I will show Phoebe's words in black and Verdi's in blue

@ Verdi 


"Passing the buck to the Irish police - what an extraordinary notion.  Do you have any evidence to verify your statement?"

Er yes, she does. I don't really need to add anything here, Phoebe deals with the scrote

From " The Truth Of The Lie" -


"After my departure the P.J. were to change their minds. They asked the Irish police to proceed with interviewing the witness. That decision was to seriously delay the process since the Smiths were not interviewed until several months later"


 As to my opinion that the P.J. avoided further contact with the Smiths because of political pressure -


"This case has involved too much politics and too little police" - Goncalo  Amaral  in interview with "Daggbladet Pluss."


"The Smiths had every opportunity to convey the description of the man they saw to an official police force.  No excuses there!"......."The Smiths had every opportunity to work with the Irish police..."


Please indicate where you found the evidence that the Irish Garda Siochana offered to in any way involve itself directly in the investigation into the disappearance of a British subject in Portugal.


"There is no requirement for the Smiths to travel to the UK to participate in drawing up an e-fit or any other mode.  Such things can be done locally, it's not passing the buck, it's routine policing" 


Where is the evidence that the Garda Siochana were prepared to assist the Smiths in creating e-fits of the man they had seen in Portugal on May 3rd '07.  Or perhaps you are suggesting that the Smiths would  sit at home in their kitchen and draw up an e-fit at a remove using some form of video conference between Drogheda  and, er, where exactly.
 Which U.K force would they try to link up to. None had shown any interest in contacting the Smiths let alone in interviewing them or getting e-fits from them! Can you imagine what the reaction would be now among Smith-cynics if they had agreed to draw up e-fits without being physically present for the process!


 "Just think what would have happened if the Smiths had refused..
.you imply some sort of threatening behaviour."

I certainly do not, in any way, imply that the Smiths were threatened by those requesting their cooperation with e-fits! What I am alluding to is how those determined to paint the Smiths as being part of the cover-up would have reacted to any refusal on their part to give further details about what they witnessed that night.


 As for Smithman having faded into obscurity - Thanks to the Smiths and those e-fits he has not. In fact very many people who follow this case still continue to regard the Smiths' evidence as one of the most important  pieces of evidence.

So having dealt with her nonsense, Phoebe has thrown the ball back into Verdi's court. How does the vile little prig deal with it? 

@Phoebe #31

You've made it impossible for me to respond to this. 

Your formatting is totally confused, plus as far as I can make out, you've plucked out odd wording here and there, taking everything out of context.

Or, to represent the above visually: